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I'm a veteran. That's about it. I didn't serve in combat, I wasn't sent to Iraq or Afghanistan. I spent a total of about 3 months in a "combat zone". I served from 1985 to 2006. I was in military intelligence. I consider myself a sub-par soldier based on various criteria. I did not try and avoid going into combat. Indeed, I tried as hard as I could to get into a combat zone. During Desert Storm, I was at my Battalion Sergeant Major's door just about every day asking if I could be sent to Southwest Asia. When my enlistment was up in 1991, I volunteered for Arabic language training because I knew there would be continued tensions and probable combat in the Middle East. I then requested to be sent to the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) so I could have the biggest chance of deploying to a combat zone in the future. When 9/11 struck, I had already been transferred to a joint unified command (in 1999) with no chance of going to combat. When my time there ended, I received orders to go to Korea. I called my branch manager in D.C. (who makes assignment decisions) and asked why I was being sent to Korea when I was a German / Arabic linguist with a special operations identifier and a war going on in Afghanistan. I requested to be sent back to the 5th SFG(A) or to Central Command (CENTCOM). But both were turned down because I had spent eight years stateside and had to serve an overseas tour. It didn't matter that both units had already deployed to Afghanistan (and I knew it was just a matter of time before we were back in Iraq) and so were "overseas". So they approved a request to transfer to Special Operations Command - Europe (SOCUER) in Germany. I thought I might have a chance to deploy from there to the Middle East. But that never happened either. Finally, after my tour in Germany ended in 2005, I requested to return to the 5th SFG(A). It was approved and I was to be there in July 2005. After speaking with them, I knew I would deploy to Iraq in August 2005. But sadly, this was not to be as well. When I arrived at Ft. Campbell, KY, I was diagnosed with 4 herniated disks and degenerative arthritis in my neck. The doctor told me I could not be on airborne status anymore and so 5th SFG(A) was going to try and transfer me out. I had received telephonic notification that I was going to be reassigned to Ft. Knox, KY to write intelligence doctrine for armored units (This was sheer stupidity. I had never been assigned to an armor unit and wouldn't know the first thing about intelligence doctrine for armored units. I was not happy at all). At about the same time I received notification that I had made the promotion list to Master Sergeant. But I had already put in my retirement packet.

To this day, I feel less of a soldier because I did not serve in combat. The closest I got was going to Jordan for a month when it was labeled as a combat zone for some reason and to Kuwait in Oct - Nov 1995 when Saddam Hussein threatened to invade again. We arrived there 3 days prior to this in support of an ongoing operation in that theater. For those few days before two U.S. divisions came into Kuwait, we were the only combat unit in country. 

There is little anyone can say to make me feel different about this. So don't try. I am proud of my service, but I will never live down what could not be. I believe I contributed significantly with my service through intelligence assessments and such, but it doesn't equal what others have done. 

I have gone through stages of being a veteran I suppose. When I first retired, I wanted to stay as far away from the military as possible. I didn't go on the nearby base except as needed and I I stayed out of contact with anyone in the military for the most part. That lasted about 5 years I suppose. But as time went on, I began to have dreams of being back in the Army and wanting to be back on base. It isn't the misery I remember, it is the camaraderie and shared misery I remember - making the most out of the little you had when you were deployed. 

I've never been ashamed of my service, it's just that I don't think I did anything spectacular or "above and beyond" so I think such congratulatory accolades should be saved for those who did more. I appreciate the appreciation from civilians, but I think it is undeserved in my case at least. Save the appreciation for those who actually did put themselves in harm's way.

PV2 Turner - Basic Training, Jan - Mar 1985 by ebturner
PV2 Turner - Basic Training, Jan - Mar 1985
I attended basic training at Ft. Dix, New Jersey from 30 Jan 85 - late March 1985...Can't remember the exact grad date off the top of my head. I was assigned to B Co, 4th Bn, 3rd Bde (B-4-3 is the common moniker for such units back then). It was extremely cold. Biggest thing I remember is flying into Newark with a bunch of guys coming in from Hawaii. They had never seen snow. It was quite funny. 

I was 18 yrs old. 
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I'm a veteran. That's about it. I didn't serve in combat, I wasn't sent to Iraq or Afghanistan. I spent a total of about 3 months in a "combat zone". I served from 1985 to 2006. I was in military intelligence. I consider myself a sub-par soldier based on various criteria. I did not try and avoid going into combat. Indeed, I tried as hard as I could to get into a combat zone. During Desert Storm, I was at my Battalion Sergeant Major's door just about every day asking if I could be sent to Southwest Asia. When my enlistment was up in 1991, I volunteered for Arabic language training because I knew there would be continued tensions and probable combat in the Middle East. I then requested to be sent to the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) so I could have the biggest chance of deploying to a combat zone in the future. When 9/11 struck, I had already been transferred to a joint unified command (in 1999) with no chance of going to combat. When my time there ended, I received orders to go to Korea. I called my branch manager in D.C. (who makes assignment decisions) and asked why I was being sent to Korea when I was a German / Arabic linguist with a special operations identifier and a war going on in Afghanistan. I requested to be sent back to the 5th SFG(A) or to Central Command (CENTCOM). But both were turned down because I had spent eight years stateside and had to serve an overseas tour. It didn't matter that both units had already deployed to Afghanistan (and I knew it was just a matter of time before we were back in Iraq) and so were "overseas". So they approved a request to transfer to Special Operations Command - Europe (SOCUER) in Germany. I thought I might have a chance to deploy from there to the Middle East. But that never happened either. Finally, after my tour in Germany ended in 2005, I requested to return to the 5th SFG(A). It was approved and I was to be there in July 2005. After speaking with them, I knew I would deploy to Iraq in August 2005. But sadly, this was not to be as well. When I arrived at Ft. Campbell, KY, I was diagnosed with 4 herniated disks and degenerative arthritis in my neck. The doctor told me I could not be on airborne status anymore and so 5th SFG(A) was going to try and transfer me out. I had received telephonic notification that I was going to be reassigned to Ft. Knox, KY to write intelligence doctrine for armored units (This was sheer stupidity. I had never been assigned to an armor unit and wouldn't know the first thing about intelligence doctrine for armored units. I was not happy at all). At about the same time I received notification that I had made the promotion list to Master Sergeant. But I had already put in my retirement packet.

To this day, I feel less of a soldier because I did not serve in combat. The closest I got was going to Jordan for a month when it was labeled as a combat zone for some reason and to Kuwait in Oct - Nov 1995 when Saddam Hussein threatened to invade again. We arrived there 3 days prior to this in support of an ongoing operation in that theater. For those few days before two U.S. divisions came into Kuwait, we were the only combat unit in country. 

There is little anyone can say to make me feel different about this. So don't try. I am proud of my service, but I will never live down what could not be. I believe I contributed significantly with my service through intelligence assessments and such, but it doesn't equal what others have done. 

I have gone through stages of being a veteran I suppose. When I first retired, I wanted to stay as far away from the military as possible. I didn't go on the nearby base except as needed and I I stayed out of contact with anyone in the military for the most part. That lasted about 5 years I suppose. But as time went on, I began to have dreams of being back in the Army and wanting to be back on base. It isn't the misery I remember, it is the camaraderie and shared misery I remember - making the most out of the little you had when you were deployed. 

I've never been ashamed of my service, it's just that I don't think I did anything spectacular or "above and beyond" so I think such congratulatory accolades should be saved for those who did more. I appreciate the appreciation from civilians, but I think it is undeserved in my case at least. Save the appreciation for those who actually did put themselves in harm's way.

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Eric
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FIRST OF ALL...
I'm not here to hit up on anyone or start some cyber-relationship. I don't care if you're 10 or 65, I'm here to check out art that I appreciate. If I like it, I'll comment - even if you're 10. Or 65. So please don't think I'm some sick cyber perv pedo. I'm not. I am a teacher and I like being a teacher and I don't have any intention of losing that job.

I'll engage you in discussion or conversation regardless of age. I like to encourage younger people to really pursue their artistic interests. So if I comment on your art, just think of it as the teacher coming out in me (even though I'm not an art teacher. I would be if I thought I could have found a job doing it).

SECOND:
I am a high school U.S. history, geography, economics, government teacher. I also facilitate ancient history, art history, and world history online classes. I teach at a county public alternative school for students who violate zero tolerance polices or have continual behavior issues. I started teaching in 2010 after serving in the military for 21 years.

I received my B.A. in history/education in 2010, focusing on early American history. I am a member of the following organizations:

- Phi Kappa Phi (oldest national honor society for all academic disciplines)
- Phi Alpha Theta (national honor society for history students)
- National Forensic League (speech and debate honor society)
- Disabled American Veterans (DAV)


THIRD:
I am also a retired disabled Army veteran (1985 - 2006). I am a Southwest Asia veteran. I am also a former German & Arabic linguist.
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Personal Quote: "The use of Latin in daily conversation always makes one sound smarter."
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Favorite Quotes:

"Sic Parvis Magna" ~ Heraldic motto of Sir Francis Drake (1540 - 1596)

"De gustibus non est disputandum" ~Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov, 1880

"The best-fitting defensive armor of old age,...consists in the knowledge and practice of the virtues, which, assiduously cultivated, after the varied experiences of a long life, are wonderfully fruitful, not only because they never take flight, not even at the last moment, — although this is a consideration of prime importance, — but because the consciousness of a well-spent life and a memory rich in good deeds afford supreme happiness." ~Cicero, Cicero de Senectute (on Old Age), 44 BC

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" ~ Juvenal (1st Century - 2nd Century AD) (Satire VI, lines 347–8)

"Some make themselves out to be victims their whole life, others take responsibility for their choices and mistakes and begin to have a life." ~ Marie Keller Ploof

"...a primary object of such a national institution should be the education of our youth in the science of government..." ~George Washington

“The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires.” ~William Arthur Ward

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." ~Thomas Jefferson

"Placing labels on historians is too often 'a substitute for careful reading, research, and intellectual endeavor.'" ~Merill Jensen vis-a-vis Pauline Maier

"Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company." ~George Washington (from a French proverb)

"Our students need a curriculum that treats them more like potential performers than sideline observers." ~Grant Wiggins

"Leadership is a choice. It’s the choice not to do nothing." ~Seth Godin

"Each time you coerce someone into doing something by using your power of authority, you deprive that person of an opportunity to become more responsible." ~ Dr. Marvin Marshall

"Higher education doesn’t reflect the life that students are living. In that life, information is available on demand, files are shared, and the world is mobile and connected. Today’s colleges, on the other hand, are typically 'tethered, isolated, generic, and closed.'" ~David Wiley

"See where her Heroes mark their glorious way,
Arm'd for the fight and blazing on the day
Blood stains their steps; and o'er the conquering plain,
'Mid fighting thousands and 'mid thousands slain,
Their eager swords promiscuous carnage blend,
And ghastly deaths their raging course attend.
Her mighty pow'r the subject world shall see;
For laurel'd Conquest waits her high decree."
~John Trumbull, 1770 Yale Commencement

"I think I can" ~The Little Engine That Could

"The sun'll come out tomorrow. So ya gotta hang on 'til tomorrow" ~ Strouse, Charles. Tomorrow. Annie. 1977

"When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad" ~ Rodgers & Hammerstein. My Favorite Things. The Sound of Music. 1959

"No one can know where we are at all times. Not even us." ~Skipper, Penguins of Madagascar

"You dense, irritating, miniature beast of burden!" ~Shrek to Donkey

"You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!" ~Monty Python (Search for the Holy Grail)

"Are you crying? There's no crying in baseball!" ~Tom Hanks (A League of Their Own)

Bob Sweeney: “There was a moment...like this. When I used to blame everything and everyone...for all the pain and suffering and vile things that happened to me, that I saw happen to my people. Used to blame everybody. Blamed white people, blamed society, blamed God. I didn’t get no answers cause I was asking the wrong questions. You have to ask the right questions.”
Derek Vinyard: “Like what?”
Bob Sweeney: “Has anything you’ve done made your life better?” ~American History X

"Fifty years from now, when you're looking back at your life, don't you want to be able to say you had the guts to get in the car? " ~Sam (Transformers)

"I'm Buck Melanoma. Moley Russell's wart. Not her wart. Not her wart! I'm... I'm the wart. She's my tumor. My... my growth. My... uh, my pimple. I'm Uncle Wart. Just old Buck "Wart" Russell. That's what they call me, or Melanoma Head. They'll call me that. "Melanoma Head's coming." I'm s... uncle! Maisy Russell's uncle!" ~Uncle Buck

"I don't think I want to know a six-year-old who isn't a dreamer, or a sillyheart. And I sure don't want to know one who takes their student career seriously. I don't have a college degree. I don't even have a job. But I know a good kid when I see one. Because they're ALL good kids, until dried-out, brain-dead skags like you drag them down and convince them they're no good." ~Uncle Buck
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Thanks so much for faving my first Daily Deviation:
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You have some great photography. Look forward to seeing what you share with us in the future.
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Thank you so much! :)
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Thanks for adding "Knights" to your collection :)
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Most welcome! It's a nice drawing! :)
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