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(Originally posted on Wednesday, September 24th about that day)

Today, the student from the last post came into 1st period. He was talkative and in good spirits. After a few minutes I asked him to come out into the hallway. I told him that I was really proud of the choices he made the previous day. I told him he made some difficult choices and I know it had to be kind of tough to not say or do something. But in doing so, he would have taken three steps back. I repeated I was proud of him and respected what he did. I also told him that it just showed me he is a good kid and just had to make tough choices. He kept his head down the whole time. He told me thanks and that he really appreciated it. I really enjoy having this kid in my class. If he had the right teachers who respected him and let him know that he mattered, he’d be a great student and excel. It’s my hope that he achieves his dreams and becomes a train engineer if that’s what he wants.

Later today, after lunch and the start of 6th period (4th block), I had a student that was working on a U.S. History web-based course. He had worked pretty far ahead and has two more weeks till he returns to his regular school. He had already received one negative referral today before lunch. When he reported to me at the start of 6th period, I told him I wanted him to go to the library and get a non-fiction historical book and he was going to write a book review on it. He immediately balked about this and whined and asked me if he could just do work in the classroom; that he really didn’t want to get a book. While he was telling me this, I then told him that once he got the book, he was going to sit in the hallway and read so he wouldn’t be distracted. He then balked at this and whined some more and requested to sit in the room to read. I told him this wasn’t up for discussion and I wasn’t going to compromise or negotiate. It was final. At this point, he started to turn away from me and, at the same time, he took his level 3 and level 2 name tags out (He had been dropped from level 4 this morning) and told me that I could just go ahead and take these cause he wasn’t going to do what I asked him. At this point they fell on the floor and I told him to get the name tags and give them to me. I also told him to go to the office. I went with him, sat him down near the office and went and found the principal. I told her what happened and told her that I think he had gone from being dropped to needing to be suspended (I was pretty upset at him). I then went back to him and told him a few things…

I told him, “You really made a bad choice. I want you to know right now that everything that is about to happen to you, you brought upon yourself. I am not responsible for it, so don’t blame me. I’ve treated you with respect, with kindness, with dignity, with all that humanity dictates I should treat you. And today you treated me with such great disrespect and unkindness. It really hurt me. Have I ever been disrespectful or unkind to you?” (He shook his head no). You need to own what you did and take responsibility for your actions. You made a serious error in judgment. I think you have a lot to contribute to this world. You’ll do some great things in the future and I want to be around to see what you do. But if you can’t control your actions and your behavior in making judgments, you won’t be able to make those contributions. I like you and think you’re a great student. I think you’re very kind and you’re going to be successful, but you got to control your actions. I know it’s tough as a 17 yr old guy to do that sometimes, but you have to do it. Now, let me tell you something else. Whatever happens with the principal, I still believe in you. I still respect you. I hold nothing against you. I got no beef with you. As far as I’m concerned everything that just happened is water under the bridge, it’s beyond us, it’s past us and you got a clean slate with me. When you come back to the room, everything’s cool. I got no hard feelings against you.”

He stood up as I was saying this last part and he looked me in the eye and apologized for his behavior and for disrespecting me and offered his hand. I shook his hand and told him thank you and to hang in there. It’ll be alright.

He came down a few minutes later and asked me what level I wanted him to be on. I look questioningly at him and he explained that the principal didn’t have a write-up on him so didn’t know what kind of discipline I recommended. I quickly wrote a referral and took it down to the principal. I spoke to her and told her that I didn’t really want to drop him another level in one day, but he had been extremely disrespectful to me and his refusal to follow instructions was poor judgment. I told her that I wish there was a way we could help him to not internalize such things so quickly. So we agreed to have him lose his breaks for two days and he would have to eat in level one lunch for a week (level one lunch = no talking and complete silence; almost isolation).

Later in the afternoon we were about to go down the hallway for a drink of water (single file) and I asked them to all make sure they had their name tags on and he jokingly said, “I’m wearing mine! I’m proud of it!” (Level four students do not wear name tags and now he was on level three from being dropped earlier in the day). I smiled and said, “Well you should be, you earned it!” He smiled back and took it in good spirits. The day began on a good note and it ended on a good note.

The moral of the story is this: It is difficult to discipline students and at the same time to show them they matter. It is a difficult situation unless you already paved the ground for that to happen. You can’t be a jerk and then suddenly show a student that you care. You have to cultivate that ground, to till it, and to plant those seeds just right. You have to cultivate it from day one. It’s not something you can just start. But that doesn’t mean teachers can’t change.

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I'm not here to hit up on anyone or start some cyber-relationship. I don't care if you're 10 or 65, I'm here to check out art that I appreciate. If I like it, I'll comment - even if you're 10. Or 65. So please don't think I'm some sick cyber perv pedo. I'm not. I am a teacher and I like being a teacher and I don't have any intention of losing that job.

I'll engage you in discussion or conversation regardless of age. I like to encourage younger people to really pursue their artistic interests. So if I comment on your art, just think of it as the teacher coming out in me (even though I'm not an art teacher. I would be if I thought I could have found a job doing it).

I am a high school U.S. history, geography, economics, government teacher. I also facilitate ancient history, art history, and world history online classes. I teach at a county public alternative school for students who violate zero tolerance polices or have continual behavior issues. I started teaching in 2010 after serving in the military for 21 years.

I received my B.A. in history/education in 2010, focusing on early American history. I am a member of the following organizations:

- Phi Kappa Phi (oldest national honor society for all academic disciplines)
- Phi Alpha Theta (national honor society for history students)
- National Forensic League (speech and debate honor society)
- Disabled American Veterans (DAV)

I am also a retired disabled Army veteran (1985 - 2006). I am a Southwest Asia veteran. I am also a former German & Arabic linguist.
Personal Quote: "The use of Latin in daily conversation always makes one sound smarter."
Favorite Quotes:

"Sic Parvis Magna" ~ Heraldic motto of Sir Francis Drake (1540 - 1596)

"De gustibus non est disputandum" ~Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov, 1880

"The best-fitting defensive armor of old age,...consists in the knowledge and practice of the virtues, which, assiduously cultivated, after the varied experiences of a long life, are wonderfully fruitful, not only because they never take flight, not even at the last moment, — although this is a consideration of prime importance, — but because the consciousness of a well-spent life and a memory rich in good deeds afford supreme happiness." ~Cicero, Cicero de Senectute (on Old Age), 44 BC

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" ~ Juvenal (1st Century - 2nd Century AD) (Satire VI, lines 347–8)

"Some make themselves out to be victims their whole life, others take responsibility for their choices and mistakes and begin to have a life." ~ Marie Keller Ploof

"...a primary object of such a national institution should be the education of our youth in the science of government..." ~George Washington

“The mediocre teacher tells. The good teacher explains. The superior teacher demonstrates. The great teacher inspires.” ~William Arthur Ward

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." ~Thomas Jefferson

"Placing labels on historians is too often 'a substitute for careful reading, research, and intellectual endeavor.'" ~Merill Jensen vis-a-vis Pauline Maier

"Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company." ~George Washington (from a French proverb)

"Our students need a curriculum that treats them more like potential performers than sideline observers." ~Grant Wiggins

"Leadership is a choice. It’s the choice not to do nothing." ~Seth Godin

"Each time you coerce someone into doing something by using your power of authority, you deprive that person of an opportunity to become more responsible." ~ Dr. Marvin Marshall

"Higher education doesn’t reflect the life that students are living. In that life, information is available on demand, files are shared, and the world is mobile and connected. Today’s colleges, on the other hand, are typically 'tethered, isolated, generic, and closed.'" ~David Wiley

"See where her Heroes mark their glorious way,
Arm'd for the fight and blazing on the day
Blood stains their steps; and o'er the conquering plain,
'Mid fighting thousands and 'mid thousands slain,
Their eager swords promiscuous carnage blend,
And ghastly deaths their raging course attend.
Her mighty pow'r the subject world shall see;
For laurel'd Conquest waits her high decree."
~John Trumbull, 1770 Yale Commencement

"I think I can" ~The Little Engine That Could

"The sun'll come out tomorrow. So ya gotta hang on 'til tomorrow" ~ Strouse, Charles. Tomorrow. Annie. 1977

"When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad" ~ Rodgers & Hammerstein. My Favorite Things. The Sound of Music. 1959

"No one can know where we are at all times. Not even us." ~Skipper, Penguins of Madagascar

"You dense, irritating, miniature beast of burden!" ~Shrek to Donkey

"You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!" ~Monty Python (Search for the Holy Grail)

"Are you crying? There's no crying in baseball!" ~Tom Hanks (A League of Their Own)

Bob Sweeney: “There was a this. When I used to blame everything and everyone...for all the pain and suffering and vile things that happened to me, that I saw happen to my people. Used to blame everybody. Blamed white people, blamed society, blamed God. I didn’t get no answers cause I was asking the wrong questions. You have to ask the right questions.”
Derek Vinyard: “Like what?”
Bob Sweeney: “Has anything you’ve done made your life better?” ~American History X

"Fifty years from now, when you're looking back at your life, don't you want to be able to say you had the guts to get in the car? " ~Sam (Transformers)

"I'm Buck Melanoma. Moley Russell's wart. Not her wart. Not her wart! I'm... I'm the wart. She's my tumor. My... my growth. My... uh, my pimple. I'm Uncle Wart. Just old Buck "Wart" Russell. That's what they call me, or Melanoma Head. They'll call me that. "Melanoma Head's coming." I'm s... uncle! Maisy Russell's uncle!" ~Uncle Buck

"I don't think I want to know a six-year-old who isn't a dreamer, or a sillyheart. And I sure don't want to know one who takes their student career seriously. I don't have a college degree. I don't even have a job. But I know a good kid when I see one. Because they're ALL good kids, until dried-out, brain-dead skags like you drag them down and convince them they're no good." ~Uncle Buck

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Crazy-Eel Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Thanks for the watch!
ebturner Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Most welcome. I like your posts and agree with you on most everything I've read. Look forward to seeing more!
Kajm Featured By Owner Edited Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It didn't take :iconscythemantis: long to show just how ignorant he is…

He doesn't even recognize the name of Gavin Schmidt, one of the very people who's articles he would be quoting to argue against me! Good God! At least I KNOW who the enemy is! He doesn't even know the name of one of his own heroes! How frigging STUPID is this clown?
scythemantis Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Welp, Kajm said he'd "love to see me talk down to you," so do tell me how your military experience gave you the scientific understanding to deny any human impact on climate?

It's pretty easily comprehensible science.
LocustaVampa Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2014
The Dinosaurs farted a great deal. The result was climate change!
ebturner Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Mmm...never said it did. But my comment was in reply to a comment you apparently made in which you made some general statements about Kajm and those who tend to agree with him. Five incorrect statements to be specific. But then again, I wouldn't expect much else.

1. I am not between 13-17 years of age. However, I do have three teenagers who are between those ages
2. I don't "...know literally nothing about science or nature..." You have incorrectly used the word "literally". Admittedly, I don't know as much as perhaps you or Kajm, but I do know a thing or two about science. Environmental science has really never interested me as a matter of fact. So I could really care less about it all.
3. I do not believe all scientists are evil. But, in fact, I do believe there are scientists out there who are not altruistic in their findings and are seeking financial gain.
4. I'm fairly certain there are many scientists who don't make up environmental problems. But then again, there are some who do make up environmental problems for financial gain. If you don't believe that then you are pretty naive. 
5. I don't believe that these scientists are out to "hurt republicans" necessarily. In fact, I could care less. 

So, see? I could really care less about your ongoing debate with Kajm. My point was only that generalizations are really in poor taste in debates. 

(Link to the original post/comment:

P.S. And this will be the last comment I make on this thread. So if you reply? ...well...I could really care less.
scythemantis Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
And I couldn't care less if you comment back or not, but I'll still leave a reply.

My words have always been that his audience are "primarily" or "mainly" or "mostly" teenagers. That already acknowledges exceptions exist, so I'm not sure why you or anyone else thinks it's a valid argument to whine that they're older than that.

Science, incidentally, does not pay remotely as well as politics, or hollywood, or "alternative medicine," or drug dealing, or hell, even a lot of blue-collar jobs. In fact, an enormous amount of science is virtually non-profit and independent.

Even scientific institutions who get massive government grants have to divide that among many employees, equipment and supplies over a long period of time. The public hears that scientists "got a million dollars to study trees." The truth is that a large team of people got roughly the same wages as the average joe for a year or more of grueling field work.
Kajm Featured By Owner Edited Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer

'My words have always been that his audience are "primarily" or "mainly" or "mostly" teenagers. '

Well now 64% of those who answered my poll on the topic, disagree with you…

The MAs, BAs and PhDs contradict your 'words.' However I understand the reasoning (such as it is) behind your claim- you'd like to believe that the vast majority of those who agree with me are children, and you are happy to misrepresent that (ie, LIE) to your followers. That's so much easier than actually disproving the science which I post to this site.

Oh yes! Regarding your claim that I ignore links you post, which supposedly counter the peer-reviewed research I put up: I have stated that you have NEVER posted research which Specifically refutes the peer-reviewed research which I post up here. If you want to prove that the research I post here is 'out of date,' then you need to post SPECIFIC papers which were written to refute those. Not articles full of global generalizations on the state of the climate. Specific papers, which were written to specifically refute the ones I have posted. Are you capable of comprehending that?

I have also noticed several times in the past when people commenting on your journals have asked for links to prove your contention. You blew them off, ignored the question, changed the subject. You can't answer them because you've never actually read or tried to comprehend anything that doesn't fit your hystericyst world-view, otherwise known as AGW- all you have ever seen, is the propaganda you parrot onto this site.

'Science, incidentally, does not pay remotely as well as politics, or hollywood, or "alternative medicine," or drug dealing, or hell, even a lot of blue-collar jobs. In fact, an enormous amount of science is virtually non-profit and independent.'

Then millions of scientists must live in Poverty, according to your claim. Again, can you prove it? Show us what the poor, timid little scientists are making. You make it sound like it was below minimum wage.

You would have us believe that these scientist exist purely to find the truth. That they have NO motivations whatsoever beyond that. No reason to lie, cheat, or steal. No possible way they could ever succumb to political or financial pressures to conform to, say, a 'consensus.'

But 'science doesn't pay remotely as well as...even a lot of blue-collar jobs.' And you don't think THAT would not be incentive for any or all of the above?

Peer review has been corrupted…

A stem-cell scientist takes in 'millions' for fraudulent research…

And very likely expected to make millions on the patents!

Activist climate scientists like hansen and mann make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in speaking fees. Not to mention a cool million-plus, that hansen 'forgot' to report…

An IPCC scientist himself, complains about political pressure and interference in writing climate policy papers…

And you are somehow Incapable of seeing or acknowledging that these things and tens of thousands more, are happening all around you? When did people who became scientists, STOP being human, that you think some few of them would not stoop to such things? Especially when the pressure is political / ideological.

Science is a religion to the likes of you. Critical thinking is beyond your grasp. You keep making the claim that observational data fits what the climate models projected, even as Reality turns further and further Away from those predictions! A score and more of research papers over the past five years or so, have ALL shown that climate sensitivity is well below what they use in the climate models - are we supposed to believe that all of these papers and people are part of some kind of republican-led, big-oil funded conspiracy?

The Tropical Hot Spot that was supposed to be proof of the theory, never materialized

Claim after claim after claim has been shown by nature itself, to be wrong………

Your 'golden standard' in climate science, the IPCC, is full of errors……

You are a know-nothing troll, a parrot. You have been raised to live in Fear of the weather and you and yours are going to do tremendous damage to this world trying to 'fix' it.

Interesting that you once again claim that only humans can be responsible for the current warming…

Yet you want us to believe that you have never claimed humans are 100% responsible? Even one of your climate gods, gavin schmidt, claims 110%!

Every time you claim someone 'denies' climate change, you are LYING.

'Recall how climate alarmists always try to portray skeptics as ignorant, close-minded flat-earthers who lack sufficient education to understand even the basics of the science, and if it wasn’t for them, the world could start taking the necessary steps to rescue itself.

Unfortunately for the warmists, the opposite is true. The warmists are the ones who are less educated scientifically. This is what a recent Yale University study shows. Hat tip:

Professor Dan M. Kahan and his team surveyed 1540 US adults and determined that people with more education in natural sciences and mathematics tend to be more skeptical of AGW climate science. Of course this means that people will less education are more apt to be duped by it.

Surprised? Here’s an excerpt of the study’s abstract (emphasis added):

The conventional explanation for controversy over climate change emphasizes impediments to public understanding: Limited popular knowledge of science, the inability of ordinary citizens to assess technical information, and the resulting widespread use of unreliable cognitive heuristics to assess risk. A large survey of U.S. adults (N = 1540) found little support for this account. On the whole, the most scientifically literate and numerate subjects were slightly less likely, not more, to see climate change as a serious threat than the least scientifically literate and numerate ones.'

- See more at:…


Anyone who finds it 'reasonable' to denigrate, demonize, smear and LIE about skeptics such as myself, is beneath contempt. Back onto my block list you go.



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PosterGuy2014 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the +fav
ebturner Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Most welcome. I wanted you to know I fully support your statement and stand wholeheartedly against those dolts who are Hamas apologists. 
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